I hope the investigation can solve this mystery

"ImmoralMinority" (araimondo) 10/22/2019 at 13:25 • Filed to: None

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Certainly, high taxes and over-regulation of business have nothing to do with it. This would be comedy if it wasn’t hurting people. Our Democratic leaders love themselves some investigations. They’ll probably form a commission to study the problem. Note the part where they have no evidence at all of price fixing.

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Azrek > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:34

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Ooo...isn’t there also an article on how some EVs were more expensive to own in Cali than anywhere else? 

For Sweden > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:39

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California’s gasoline market is a great case study for the failures of protectionism

No pipelines to outside markets

Special blends that discourage imports

Punitive taxation borne by consumers

Restrictions on increasing local production

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:40

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Something similar here went down not too long ago. No collusion or price fixing was  found, just taxes and corporations charging as much as they think we’ll pay to increase their profits.  No news there though. It was obvious we were being played like 20 years ago when gas prices spiked to far higher than they had ever been, supply was supposedly short, yet all of the oil companies recorded record profits for the year. Probably obvious long before then in fact, I was just too young to realize it..

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:40

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*shrugs*

ill take cali prices.....thats per liter

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:41

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It is interesting to consider how a 25 cent tax delta turns into a nearly $2 price delta, but clearly it’s much more expensive to run a small business in California compared to the lower Midwest (transportation costs figure in as well - gas is cheapest where the refining capacity is the greatest) . I assume that CA is just as competitive on pricing, and that gas stations actually make little to nothing on the sale of gasoline itself.

https://gasprices.aaa.com/state-gas-price-averages/

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > Azrek 10/22/2019 at 13:41

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They give a credit at the start.....    but the sales taxes and registration fees are among the nation’s highest.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:41

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We know that $0. 47 3 cents is a gas tax, probably $0.50/gal for dumb environmental regulations , $0.50/gallon for special formulation-california specific . This gets me down to Montana pricing around $2.70/gallon for regular unlea ded.

Please send check for $1,000,000 to Hi ghlander LLC.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/22/2019 at 13:42

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hey.... you get a discount on gas if you get a carwash there?

hmmm.... over here you’d probably get a voucher for one free use of toilet if you buy gas

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Azrek 10/22/2019 at 13:43

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Yeah - e xpensive electricity, too.

SBA Thanks You For All The Fish > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 13:44

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I was giggling the other day that I started the morning buying gas for $2.249 a gallon in Albuquerque but my last tank of the day was outside LA at $4.499 a gallon. I think the tank in ABQ had no ethanol either, so gives much better mileage in the S8.

Results of the CA “In-depth Investigation”..

user314 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/22/2019 at 14:00

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Woo-hoo, we’re #1, we’re #1!

Now explain why our roads STILL look like shit, Penn DOT!

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 14:17

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All this proves is I chose the wrong career path keeping computers and servers running I could be a millionaire if I had just specialized in blindingly obvious studies.

Xanadu603 > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/22/2019 at 14:24

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Yeah I remind people places like Japan are more per liter!

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 14:25

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I mean it’s only marginally higher taxes so that’s not the real culprit. And it’s not necessarily “over-regulation” as you describe, but more so “unique regulation” which probably was needed when cars were dirtier but today is most likely not needed. (this is why I wish most laws had a review/ renewal requirement like every 20 years or so)

Also, any idea why California has no interstate pipeline? I assume regulation, but I can’t seem to find an actual source for that.

BigBlock440 > user314 10/22/2019 at 16:02

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The roads aren’t paved with State Police salary.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 17:34

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Every few years, idiots in congress also demand that the DOJ/FTC investigate gasoline prices. And every time the investigation shows nothing illegal, just the ability of oligopolies to charge prices that are based on the industry structure. 

gin-san - shitpost specialist > ImmoralMinority 10/22/2019 at 18:29

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They gotta tax something to put those cancer warnings on everything.

I was at a hotel in San Francisco after I got fucked over by US customs/immigration and I noticed even the hotel has a cancer warning. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 10/22/2019 at 18:32

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I worked for a co-op that owned several gas stations, and one of them was on the Wisconsin side of the Wi/Mi border. When Michigan raised their gas tax that store ran out of fuel because so many people in the neighboring Mi. Town were driving over to get gas. I think in the corse of the first month they saw a 25% increase in sales. It died down as people stopped caring tho. 

jimz > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 10/23/2019 at 12:10

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Large spikes in prices scare people for a bit, then they realize gas still isn’t really that expensive in this country 

CaptDale - is secretly British > ImmoralMinority 10/23/2019 at 12:32

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If they don’t find the fact that they keep raising taxes to fix the roads , then move the money else where and have no money to fix the roads and then they raise the taxes to fix the roads but then move the money again to then find no money left to fix the roads so they raise taxes again..... then they will be right on track to blame the oil company for shafting them so CA will sue big oil or something dumb for a bunch of money and will lose making the tax payers pay for all the legal fees too.